Oh, Disclaimer. I tried to explain to my h why I didn't like it. Seeing Cate's character so brutally nay GLEEFULLY, SELF-RIGHTEOUSLY dumped by her husband, colleagues, son....on no evidence, just a story knit of such tissue-thin lies it is blown apart by the merest breath of truth.
The mother of the rapist was a legit bad mother, by the way - she had evidence her son was a rapist and career abuser of women, but she covered it up, happily sacrificing another young mother on the altar of her wish fulfillment for her own rotten son.
Cate's character gets ONE good line, at the end, when she confronts her weak wanker of a husband, pointing out that his relief that she was raped and not merely unfaithful was even more unforgivable than the way he, who had said "you inspire me every day", treated her like used bubblegum when he was believing the fiction of the book.
What disgusted me about this movie was how it is not telling us anything new or showing a way forward. Women who dare to aspire for themselves, who dare to succeed, are guilty, even after proven innocent. It's not news, it's just an ongoing fact of women's lives, so making entertainment out of the harsh reality is just not entertaining, I guess.
Bravo!!! I could not agree more! Excellent point on the rapist’s mom being the bad mother.
My hope is that this story shows people how women are routinely, unfairly judged and to STOP doing that. And I really loved her line at the end - at least she got to stick it to him and let him wallow in those mistakes for eternity.
I think I might be the only person who enjoyed Disclaimer. LOL. But, as a film school grad, sometimes I think I see what the director was trying to do with the material...even while floundering (and, no, a man should not have been the one to do that, all due respect Alfonso). [It's how I watch all of Coppola. Francis, not Sophia.] What I liked is that it was pulpy, it pulled us in a different direction than where we wanted to go and then we got the truth, which made us have to rethink it all. No, it did not show us a new way forward, but I think, as women, we know the road she is going to walk, and how hard and unfair and then, maybe, validating that will be. (Maybe.) In some way, I felt the freedom of the character. How we rediscover ourselves as we rebuild. At the end where Sasha begs for forgiveness and wants her back and she's all la-di-dah NOPE and here's why, ever so calmly...LOL! No. I would've thrown him out in the same distasteful way he tossed her aside. But I'm an Aries. I wanted to see her anger; instead there was her exhaustion, relief and resolve. I think it's interesting to pick apart the storytelling once we have all the pieces to put together, and we get see why we connected with a character or not. It was not great by any stretch of the imagination. But I'll watch Cate Blanchett do anything, even guzzle disgustingly made coffee after being drugged and running to her terribly unlikeable son. I'm weird like that, though. xo
I love how strong these opinions are about the same show! This is great. It helps to have the film school perspective, for sure. I can appreciate these things. As a writer I was offended that someone wrote a terrible manuscript, self published it, and it was instantly a huge hit! 😂
LOL. I had a friend tell me to absolutely NOT read 50 Shades because my head would imploded from the grammar errors alone in the first chapter. But, when people are hungry for something, they will gobble it up. I have the same low opinion of SATC. Didn’t really like it when it came out, but we all watched it and adored it because it was the first time we were seeing women like that in context like that. Watch it today, and it’s embarrassing. And I simply hate-watch the spin-off, because I’m petty like that. But art is wonderful because it’s viewed differently by everyone, because we put ourselves into it, whether we want to or think we are. It’s a fun little parlor game. xo
Oh I watched it all, because of Ms. Cate, she is sublime in everything. And that is a good point you are making, about her freedom. She knew the truth, and so she walked in her confidence in that while everyone around her just so horribly horribly let her down because they were so so willing to believe the absolute worst about her, on no real evidence other than her actual well-lived life, which they easily dismissed. It was a good reminder how the world really is, though I didn't need reminding.
I think it’s the men that need the reminding, which might be why a man directed it (or the only way it could get made)…and men would have to watch it with their wives. Perhaps a point or two got across? A girl can dream. And I totally get not enjoying it, because we are on misogyny overload right now…which has gone on waaaaaaay to f*cking long (all our lives and the lives before us). It’s a lot. But this is a series I can put on as background noise while I write, and tune in/out on certain parts. And I did enjoy Kevin Kline, though he was totally miscast. He brought too much comedy to it. And I kept seeing him as Otto from A Fish Called Wanda or Anthony from I Love You To Death. I kept waiting for him to say, “I got a leetle headache.” Love that movie. And I will watch Lesley Manville all day long. Magpie Murders is delightful (first series better than the second). xo
Oh, Disclaimer. I tried to explain to my h why I didn't like it. Seeing Cate's character so brutally nay GLEEFULLY, SELF-RIGHTEOUSLY dumped by her husband, colleagues, son....on no evidence, just a story knit of such tissue-thin lies it is blown apart by the merest breath of truth.
The mother of the rapist was a legit bad mother, by the way - she had evidence her son was a rapist and career abuser of women, but she covered it up, happily sacrificing another young mother on the altar of her wish fulfillment for her own rotten son.
Cate's character gets ONE good line, at the end, when she confronts her weak wanker of a husband, pointing out that his relief that she was raped and not merely unfaithful was even more unforgivable than the way he, who had said "you inspire me every day", treated her like used bubblegum when he was believing the fiction of the book.
What disgusted me about this movie was how it is not telling us anything new or showing a way forward. Women who dare to aspire for themselves, who dare to succeed, are guilty, even after proven innocent. It's not news, it's just an ongoing fact of women's lives, so making entertainment out of the harsh reality is just not entertaining, I guess.
Bravo!!! I could not agree more! Excellent point on the rapist’s mom being the bad mother.
My hope is that this story shows people how women are routinely, unfairly judged and to STOP doing that. And I really loved her line at the end - at least she got to stick it to him and let him wallow in those mistakes for eternity.
I think I might be the only person who enjoyed Disclaimer. LOL. But, as a film school grad, sometimes I think I see what the director was trying to do with the material...even while floundering (and, no, a man should not have been the one to do that, all due respect Alfonso). [It's how I watch all of Coppola. Francis, not Sophia.] What I liked is that it was pulpy, it pulled us in a different direction than where we wanted to go and then we got the truth, which made us have to rethink it all. No, it did not show us a new way forward, but I think, as women, we know the road she is going to walk, and how hard and unfair and then, maybe, validating that will be. (Maybe.) In some way, I felt the freedom of the character. How we rediscover ourselves as we rebuild. At the end where Sasha begs for forgiveness and wants her back and she's all la-di-dah NOPE and here's why, ever so calmly...LOL! No. I would've thrown him out in the same distasteful way he tossed her aside. But I'm an Aries. I wanted to see her anger; instead there was her exhaustion, relief and resolve. I think it's interesting to pick apart the storytelling once we have all the pieces to put together, and we get see why we connected with a character or not. It was not great by any stretch of the imagination. But I'll watch Cate Blanchett do anything, even guzzle disgustingly made coffee after being drugged and running to her terribly unlikeable son. I'm weird like that, though. xo
I love how strong these opinions are about the same show! This is great. It helps to have the film school perspective, for sure. I can appreciate these things. As a writer I was offended that someone wrote a terrible manuscript, self published it, and it was instantly a huge hit! 😂
hahaha THIS
LOL. I had a friend tell me to absolutely NOT read 50 Shades because my head would imploded from the grammar errors alone in the first chapter. But, when people are hungry for something, they will gobble it up. I have the same low opinion of SATC. Didn’t really like it when it came out, but we all watched it and adored it because it was the first time we were seeing women like that in context like that. Watch it today, and it’s embarrassing. And I simply hate-watch the spin-off, because I’m petty like that. But art is wonderful because it’s viewed differently by everyone, because we put ourselves into it, whether we want to or think we are. It’s a fun little parlor game. xo
Oh I watched it all, because of Ms. Cate, she is sublime in everything. And that is a good point you are making, about her freedom. She knew the truth, and so she walked in her confidence in that while everyone around her just so horribly horribly let her down because they were so so willing to believe the absolute worst about her, on no real evidence other than her actual well-lived life, which they easily dismissed. It was a good reminder how the world really is, though I didn't need reminding.
I think it’s the men that need the reminding, which might be why a man directed it (or the only way it could get made)…and men would have to watch it with their wives. Perhaps a point or two got across? A girl can dream. And I totally get not enjoying it, because we are on misogyny overload right now…which has gone on waaaaaaay to f*cking long (all our lives and the lives before us). It’s a lot. But this is a series I can put on as background noise while I write, and tune in/out on certain parts. And I did enjoy Kevin Kline, though he was totally miscast. He brought too much comedy to it. And I kept seeing him as Otto from A Fish Called Wanda or Anthony from I Love You To Death. I kept waiting for him to say, “I got a leetle headache.” Love that movie. And I will watch Lesley Manville all day long. Magpie Murders is delightful (first series better than the second). xo